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Scwm 0.9 is released.

* What Scwm is:

Scwm is the Scheme Configurable Window Manager. This is a highly
dynamic and extensible window manager and scripting facility for the X
Window System (based originally on fvwm2, but now much enhanced) with
Guile Scheme as the configuration/extension language. Nearly all
decorations can be changed at run-time or per-window, and eventually
many decoration styles and additional features will be supported
through dynamically loaded code. A powerful protocol is provided for
interacting with the window manager while it is running.


* Primary Authors:

Maciej Stachowiak <mstachow@mit.edu> 
Greg J. Badros <gjb@cs.washington.edu>

Other major contributors are Sam Steingold <sds@goems.com>, Robert
Bihlmeyer <robbe@orcus.priv.at>, and Todd Larason <jtl@molehill.org>.

Many more people have contributed bug reports, bug fixes, or smaller
changes; see AUTHORS and THANKS in the distribution.

* Where you can find more info:

Some information about scwm is available at:

http://huis-clos.mit.edu/scwm/

There are also scwm-discuss@huis-clos.mit.edu and
scwm-announce@huis-clos.mit.edu mailing lists for disscussion and
release announcements repsectively. The new list
scwm-commits@huis-clos.mit.edu receives all scwm CVS commit messages.
You can subscribe to any of these at majordomo@huis-clos.mit.edu by
sending a message with a body of "subscribe <list>" where <list> is
the name of the list you want.

* Where you can get it:

You can download the latest scwm source package from:

ftp://huis-clos.mit.edu/pub/scwm/scwm-0.9beta.tar.gz

There is also
ftp://huis-clos.mit.edu/pub/scwm/scwm-icons-0.8.tar.gz

which has a number of images for use with scwm as icons, textures,
buttons, etc. Some of these images are not available otherwise.

You will also need to download and install the guile library. You can
get the latest release from:

ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/guile-1.3.tar.gz

or any archive that has GNU source packages available.

You can get the latest guile snapshot from:


ftp://red-bean.com/pub/guile

The snapshots are officially alpha but they generally work pretty
well; however, 1.3 is reccomended for now since it is pretty
recent. Guile 1.2 will also work but support will be removed in a
coming release.


* Binary packages

An RPM package for Red Hat Linux 5.2/i386 is avaialble at

ftp://vicarious-existence.mit.edu/pub/scwm/scwm-0.9-1.i386.rpm

The source RPM is at 

ftp://vicarious-existence.mit.edu/pub/scwm/scwm-0.9-1.src.rpm

This package requires the guile-1.3 package from Red Hat RawHide.

Other binary packages of this release may become available over time.


Here is what's new with 0.9 (since 0.8):

These are highlights only, see NEWS in the distribution for a more
complete list.

* Extensive session management support for use with xsm or
gnome-session; see doc/session-management.

* Experimental-qualty guile-gtk support - GUI scripting inside the
window manager.

* Much enhanced menu look configurability. Support for three new styles:
pie-menu-look and circle-pie-menu-look and xpm-shaped-menu-look in
the (app scwm xpm-menus) module. This allows a very great degree of
menu look configurability.

* The beginnings of theme support. Example fvwm2, mwm and win95
themefiles are included.

* Support for dynamically loaded modules.

* Ability to set backgrounds through a dynamic module.

* Allow user to manipulate message window directly.

* Tracking of focus order added. 

* More window information, setting and action primitives.

* New miscellaneous procedures.

* Assorted new hooks: change-desk-hook, window-focus-change-hook,
before-place-new-window-hook

* Support for hooking into the interactive resize and move loops:
interactive-resize-start-hook, interactive-resize-new-size-hook,
interactive-resize-finish-hook, interactive-move-start-hook,
interactive-move-new-position-hook, interactive-move-finish-hook

* Improved documentation.

* (app scwm cascade) and (app scwm tile) modules added to let you
cascade and tile your windows automatically.

* Enhanced window list menu.

* Enhanced (app scwm style)/(app scwm wininfo) package - support more
general ways to select windows for styles nicely.

* improved optional and keyword argument handling - errors on invalid
keyword args.

* Configurable shutdwon behavior using shutdown-options from the (app
scwm shutdown-opts) module.

* animated moves and window shading moved to loadable module.

* Enhanced control of window placement.

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Maciej Stachowiak writes:
 > Scwm 0.9 is released.

Does it also contain an improved version of the optargs.scm file?
--
Klaus Schilling

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Per user requests, I've created a new scwm-users list, for discussion
of scwm configuration, requests for help, etc.

I will be subscribed and probably various of the other developers as
well, so if you want a forum for discussing Scwm without development
discussion, this is it.

To subscribe, send a message to scwm-users-request@ph.mit.edu
with `subscribe' in the body.


 - Maciej Stachowiak

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Hi everyone,

After an excessively long downtime, the scwm web site, ftp site and
mail server are back at serveuse.mit.edu.

web:   http://serveuse.mit.edu
ftp:   ftp://serveuse.mit.edu/pub/scwm
mail:  scwm-discuss@serveuse.mit.edu, scwm-users@serveuse.mit.edu, etc


Sorry about the long downtime. There were a number of hardware
problems and I had trouble coordinating with the administrator of the
old machine to get the relevant data to a useful location.

I will now be working on restoring CVS access for developers, anoncvs,
nightly snapshots, etc.

Again, my personal apologies for the downtime.

 - Maciej


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As many of you have probably noticed, the scwm server has been down for
the
past five weeks. After more exciting adventures into the words of
ethernet,
SCSI, broken linux kernels and social engineering than I care to
mention,
I have the mailing lists, ftp site and web site back up.

The mailing lists are all now at serveuse.mit.edu (I am trying to get
a `scwm.mit.edu' name for this machine, also www.scwm.net (since
scwm.org
is taken)).

The web site is at http://serveuse.mit.edu

Some links may be tempoorarily broken, notably the mail archives. I do
have all the archived
mail but have not installed a list archiving facility yet. If anyone has
something
better than hypermail to plug, now's the time, otherwise I will just try
to
install hypermail on the new machine.

The ftp site is at ftp://serveuse.mit.edu/pub/scwm

I will now be focusing on restoring remote CVS access for the developers
and resotring the remaining bits of the ftp site, as well as fixing the
broken
links on the web site. I will fix the mail archives, nightly snapshots,
and anonymous ftp access as time permits.

Apologies for the long downtime. I have done my best to take measures to
ensure it does not happen again.

Also, if anyone would like to host offsite mirrors of all the scwm
stuff in case of future emergency, this would be greatly appreciated.

I do back up the repository regularly, but the last backup I had was
slightly out
of date, and I didn't have backups of the ftp site.

 - Maciej Stachowiak

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Serveuse is moving to a new network port. It will go down in 5-10 minutes
(sorry about the short notice). I will send mail when it is back.

From owner-scwm-announce@SCWM.MIT.EDU  Tue Sep 14 21:07:20 1999
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Subject: Scwm-0.99.2 is released!
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Scwm 0.99.2 is released.

* What Scwm is:

Scwm is the Scheme Constraints Window Manager. This is a highly
dynamic and extensible window manager and scripting facility for the X
Window System (based originally on fvwm2, but now much enhanced) with
Guile Scheme as the configuration/extension language. Nearly all
decorations can be changed at run-time or per-window, and eventually
many decoration styles and additional features will be supported
through dynamically loaded code. A powerful protocol is provided for
interacting with the window manager while it is running.


* Primary Authors:

Greg J. Badros <gjb@cs.washington.edu>
Maciej Stachowiak <mstachow@alum.mit.edu> 

Other substantial contributors include:
  Robert Bihlmeyer <robbe@orcus.priv.at>, 
  Todd Larason <jtl@molehill.org>, 
  Jeff Nichols <jwnichls@cs.washington.edu>, and
  Sam Steingold <sds@goems.com>.

Many more people have contributed bug reports, bug fixes, or smaller
changes; see AUTHORS and THANKS in the distribution.

* Where you can find more info:

Some information about scwm is available at:

http://scwm.mit.edu/

There are also scwm-discuss@scwm.mit.edu and
scwm-announce@scwm.mit.edu mailing lists for disscussion and
release announcements repsectively. The new list
scwm-commits@scwm.mit.edu receives all scwm CVS commit messages.
You can subscribe to any of these at majordomo@scwm.mit.edu by
sending a message with a body of "subscribe <list>" where <list> is
the name of the list you want.

* Where you can get it:

You can download the latest scwm source package from:

ftp://scwm.mit.edu/pub/scwm/scwm-0.99.2.tar.gz

There is also
ftp://scwm.mit.edu/pub/scwm/scwm-icons-0.99.2.tar.gz

which has a number of images for use with scwm as icons, textures,
buttons, etc. Some of these images are not available otherwise.

You will also need to download and install the guile library. You can
get the latest release from:

ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/guile

or any archive that has GNU source packages available.

You can get the latest guile snapshot from:

http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/guile.html

The snapshots are officially alpha but they generally work pretty
well; however, 1.3.2a is reccomended for now since it is the most 
recent. Guile 1.2 is no longer supported.


* Packages

Various binary RPMs are available at:

ftp://scwm.mit.edu/pub/scwm/RPMS/

Various source RPMs are available at:

ftp://scwm.mit.edu/pub/scwm/SRPMS

See the NEWS file in the distribution for a complete list
of all that has changed since the previous version of Scwm.


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Greg Badros <gjb@cs.washington.edu> writes:

 > Scwm 0.99.2 is released.
 > 
 > * What Scwm is:
 > 
 > Scwm is the Scheme Constraints Window Manager. This is a highly

When did the name change?  I thought it was the "Scheme Configurable
Window Manager".

-- 
Harvey Stein
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hjstein@bfr.co.il (Harvey J. Stein) writes:

 > Greg Badros <gjb@cs.washington.edu> writes:
 > 
 >  > Scwm 0.99.2 is released.
 >  > 
 >  > * What Scwm is:
 >  > 
 >  > Scwm is the Scheme Constraints Window Manager. This is a highly
 > 
 > When did the name change?  I thought it was the "Scheme Configurable
 > Window Manager".

Actually, it still says "Scheme Configurable Window Manager" on the
web site.

-- 
Harvey Stein
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Subject: Favor...
From: Greg Badros <gjb@cs.washington.edu>
Date: 15 Sep 1999 10:54:21 -0700
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I'd love to get Scwm more prominently featured at

http://www.PLiG.org/xwinman/

If a whole mess of us write:

matt@belgarath.demon.co.uk

And tell him that we'd like to have Scwm be on the top-level page, and
also we'd like to be able to vote for Scwm, perhaps he'll update the
page to (finally) include the best (!) window manager around.

I've written him (and not yet heard back), but I'm betting more pressure
from the masses can only help.

It'll only take 3 minutes, and I'd really appreciate it if everyone
would write.

Thanks,
Greg

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Hello everyone,

Enough already! :)

Thanks to all those of you who emailed me about adding Scwm to my
window manager site at http://www.PLiG.org/xwinman/.

And a special thanks to Greg for encouraging you, and swelling my
inbox... :)

I guess this shows that Scwm is popular enough to be given a main
feature (I've recently been through this with the Icewm folks). I'll
add the page as soon as I can. I don't have as much spare time to
devote to this as when I started the website four years ago, so please 
be patient. (And sorry for not replying to your email before now Greg, 
causing you to resort to these measures!)

Regards,

Matt.

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Subject: Another favor-- Linux Journal reader's choice...
From: Greg Badros <gjb@cs.washington.edu>
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Linux Journal is doing its annual reader's choice awards.  There is a
spot on their form for Window Manager, but Scwm isn't even among the
choices -- how silly!  In any case, it'd be great if we had a ton of
write-in votes for Scwm -- just enter

"Scwm"

in the comments box ("no opinion/other" is the default radio-button)

The page is at:

http://207.178.22.52/contest/readchoice.html


Even if you do not have the time to fill out the whole form, if you just 
do the first couple and then go down to about 65-70% through the page
and enter "Scwm" into the comments box if Scwm is your favourite window
manager, this could really help to put Scwm on the map.

Thanks!

Greg

P.S. Spread the word to your converts and friends who might use Scwm but 
don't subscribe to these lists!  Thanks!

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Greg Badros <gjb@cs.washington.edu> writes:

 > Linux Journal is doing its annual reader's choice awards.  There is a
 > spot on their form for Window Manager, but Scwm isn't even among the
 > choices -- how silly!  In any case, it'd be great if we had a ton of
 > write-in votes for Scwm -- just enter
 > 
 > "Scwm"
 > 
 > in the comments box ("no opinion/other" is the default radio-button)
 > 
 > The page is at:
 > 
 > http://207.178.22.52/contest/readchoice.html
 > 
 > 
 > Even if you do not have the time to fill out the whole form, if you just 
 > do the first couple and then go down to about 65-70% through the page
 > and enter "Scwm" into the comments box if Scwm is your favourite window
 > manager, this could really help to put Scwm on the map.

Don't forget to fill in "scheme" in the slot for your favorite
programming language!

-- 
Harvey Stein
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Also vote for guile as fav devel tool and scheme as favourite language!

(They list "gnome" as a window manager. What is that?)

Greg Badros wrote:
> 
> Linux Journal is doing its annual reader's choice awards.  There is a
> spot on their form for Window Manager, but Scwm isn't even among the
> choices -- how silly!  In any case, it'd be great if we had a ton of
> write-in votes for Scwm -- just enter
> 
> "Scwm"
> 
> in the comments box ("no opinion/other" is the default radio-button)
> 
> The page is at:
> 
> http://207.178.22.52/contest/readchoice.html
> 
> Even if you do not have the time to fill out the whole form, if you just
> do the first couple and then go down to about 65-70% through the page
> and enter "Scwm" into the comments box if Scwm is your favourite window
> manager, this could really help to put Scwm on the map.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Greg
> 
> P.S. Spread the word to your converts and friends who might use Scwm but
> don't subscribe to these lists!  Thanks!

-- 
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Francois-Rene Rideau <fare@tunes.org> writes:

> On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 09:30:36AM -0700, Greg Badros wrote:
> > We're finally at the home page for X11 window managers:
> > 
> > http://www.plig.org/xwinman/
> > 
> > The spread isn't phenonmenal, but at least we're linked in and people
> > looking for a new window manager can find our main site.
> > 
> > Thanks again to all of you who wrote Matt!
> >
> Hum. As far as silly suggestions go, you can now all vote at:
>     http://www.PLiG.org/xwinman/vote.html

Silly?  Never! :-)

It'd be great if everyone would register their email address and fill
out this form... if everyone on scwm-announce does this we'll be #1
right away!

Only takes two minutes.  First go to:

http://www.PLiG.org/xwinman/register.html

then wait for an email to arrive w/ your password, then use it to vote
for Scwm at:

http://www.PLiG.org/xwinman/vote.html

Thanks,
Greg

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